EP. 1937

06/05/26

Bill Perkins

โ€œThe money wasn’t the goal. The life was the goal. The fulfillment was the goal.โ€

Why Your Retirement Plan Is Wasting Your Life | Bill Perkins

The real mistake isn’t spending too much. It’s dying with money you never used.

Bill Perkins built a career generating over $2.2 billion in trading profits as a hedge fund manager. His book Die With Zero reframes what money is actually for.

Money is a tool, not a goal. Every dollar you hold at death represents life energy you spent earning it and never converted into something real. The question isn’t how much you save. It’s whether you’re using your wealth, your health, and your time together, in the right order, to get the most out of your one shot.

That’s where memory dividends come in. When you invest in an experience, you don’t just get the moment. You get a return every time you recall it, tell the story, or relive it in conversation. The joy compounds long after the trip ends.

But timing matters more than most people realize. Your ability to convert money into meaningful experience decays as you age. The adventures your body wants now won’t be available at 72. Life is like Tetris. Get the pieces in the right order, and you get everything. Delay too long, and the window quietly closes.

Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life

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โ€œI think the biggest psychological crime is people fear running outta money instead of fear of wasting their life.โ€ โ€” Bill Perkins
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And now let’s jump into episode 1937 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • Where did your fascination with wanting to make more money come from originally, and what do you believe was the true unlock for you from not having a certain amount of money to it becoming an abundance that started to come your way?
  •  Is there a calculation or a formula on how to develop a fulfilling life where money is a part of that equation?
  •  What do you think is the biggest psychological crime someone can make when it comes to their money?
  •  Why should we be thinking about Die With Zero, and why does the idea of dying with nothing seem selfish to so many people when it comes to leaving money for kids or charity?
  •  What was the actual moment where you broke the generational conditioning around scarcity and unlocked it into abundance for you, where it converted into money entering your hands and your bank account?
  • How do you get that belief? Most people don’t believe in themselves enough to believe they’re deserving and worthy of money, of wealth, of abundance — how did you get to believe you are deserving?
  • From your perspective at this stage, what would you say are the three keys to really making more money, and also being fulfilled with the money you have?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Understand the Die With Zero philosophy and why every dollar you die holding is proof you worked for no reward
  • Discover the memory dividend concept and why investing in experiences now pays compounding joy long after the moment passes
  • Learn the time bucket framework for getting your biggest experiences in the right order before your body, not your bank account, makes the decision for you
  • Identify the biggest psychological crime around money: fearing you’ll run out instead of fearing you’ll waste your one life
  • Build the belief, mindset, and consistency that Bill Perkins says are the three keys to earning more and actually feeling fulfilled by what you have
  • Plus much more…

Show Notes:

  • Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life

 

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