What do you believe in?
We all agree that certain things are wrong. We’re constantly redefining what it means to treat each other with compassion and respect.
So what is it that’s inspiring us to change?
You might think that it’s random. But maybe there is a force behind it all.
For this 5-Minute Friday, I revisited a conversation I had with author, speaker and former pastor Rob Bell where he talked about why he believes in God.
Rob Bell is the author of ten books, including the New York Times Bestsellers What We Talk About When We Talk About God, The Zimzum of Love, Love Wins and What Is the Bible?. His podcast, called the RobCast, was named by iTunes Best of 2015. He’s been profiled in the New Yorker, toured with Oprah, and in 2011 Time Magazine named him one of the 100 Most Influential People in the World.
Rob reminds us that moving forward and leaving harmful practices behind is what it means to be human.
Reflect with Rob about how far we’ve come and where we need to go in Episode 753.
Lewis: This is 5-Minute Friday!!
Rob Bell for those who don’t know him he is one of time magazine’s top 100 influential people in the world. He toured with Oprah for a summer all around the country talking about leadership, spirituality and wellness and all these different topics. He’s trusted by many he built one of the largest churches in the country back in Michigan. And he’s got his own podcast he’s got a number of books a New York Time best-selling author, he’s an incredible human being and an awesome guy, I go over and hang out in his place with him and his wife and his kids and we watch football on Sundays and just an incredible human being.
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What do you say you put your faith in?
Rob: Well some people would begin with, I put my faith I believe there is something happening in the universe, I don’t believe we’re alone. Some call it spirit, force, energy, God and some of those words get loaded down for people with a bunch of associations. I think there’s something unfolding here, how come we don’t have practice slavery and yet several generations ago in this country people had slave? So why are there certain things that were culturally acceptable, a generation ago there were establishment in America where there were 2 drinking fountains for people of different skin colors.
Lewis: In the 60’s
Rob: And it’s not that long ago. So what is happening? Think about restaurants now where all of their food is locally sourced, think about non-GMO, think about organic how come there’s a growing awareness that we’re doing some terrible things to our planet or think about triple bottom line businesses, it’s no longer enough to make money. You have businesses saying “Is this a good place to work? Are we good to human beings?” How come there’s something in us that’s saying if you’re an NBA owner and you say horribly racist things you shouldn’t be allowed to keep your NBA team, although those things were completely accepted a generation ago in certain places in the country. So, I think what would you call that? What is unfolding that we all have a sense that we’re all glad certain things aren’t done anymore and then at the same breathe that we say ‘I’m so glad that we don’t do that primitive barbaric stuff’ we also right now could point 10 or 20 or 50 or a thousand things that we think we have a long way to go in that area. Whether it’s the pay of women in the business world, whether it’s you can go down the list of things where you’re like urban education should be better.
Lewis: Child labor in other countries.
Rob: What is it in the human heart that we have this awareness? the great Desharden wrote “Progress is the soul of the universe.” So what is it moving the whole thing forward? Even when we say Syria Isis that’s bad terrible awful brutal, how come we have the sense of things are wrong and we should leave those behind and move on to a better future together, and one of the words that people use for that is God. What is moving this whole forward? And whatever language you use for that that’s fine, but to say there’s nothing going on here we’re just randomly here, come on. It’s too weird and mysterious and it’s fiery.
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