EP. 2006

11/13/26

Dr. Ethan Kross

โ€œMy definition of greatness is leaving another person a little bit better off than before they met you.โ€

Stop Overthinking: How to Quiet the Voice in Your Head | Dr. Ethan Kross

Overthinking starts the moment one bad thought gets stuck on a loop and refuses to leave.

Dr. Ethan Kross, a University of Michigan psychologist who has studied chatter for over 20 years, sat down with Lewis to explain why your inner voice spirals and how to pull it back. His book, Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It, lays out 26 tools, and he walks through a handful of them here.

The simplest one sounds strange at first. You coach yourself silently, using your own name, the way LeBron James and Jennifer Lawrence both did in interviews. Ethan’s team texted people five times a day for two weeks to track this kind of self-talk and found no link to narcissism at all.

He also explains why venting to a friend can turn into co-rumination and leave you just as upset as when you started. A moment of awe in nature can shrink your problems, and Rafael Nadal lines up his water bottles because the ritual gives him โ€œthe order I seek in my head.โ€

Negative emotions still have a job to do, and the anxiety and stress you feel before a big moment can push you to prepare. When Lewis asked for his three truths, Ethan ended on a phrase he grew up with: โ€œBe a mensch.โ€

Shift: Managing Your Emotions–So They Don’t Manage You

Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It

Ethan’s Website

โ€œStress on its own, not bad. What makes stress toxic is when the stress reaction goes up and it remains elevated over time, and that's what chatter does.โ€ – Dr. Ethan Kross
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And now let’s jump into episode 2006 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • Is it really possible to control the conscious mind?
  • What happens when we come from I?
  • What is the science of positive affirmations saying currently?
  • How does someone deal with the rejection from the chatter of rejection or the fear of rejection even before they put something out there?
  • What would you say are three to five things that we could do on a daily basis to help prevent our mind from taking over?
  • Is that good or bad, unloading on our friends or family?
  • What about if someone’s feeling imposter syndrome?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Silence spiraling overthinking by coaching yourself with your own name, the way Dr. Ethan Kross does
  • Use mental time travel to shrink today’s crisis by picturing yourself years from now
  • Stop venting sessions that turn into co-rumination and leave you more upset
  • Pick a small board of chatter advisors who actually help you move forward
  • Calm anxious chatter with rituals, awe in nature and a tidier space
  • Reframe stress as your body rising to meet the challenge
  • Plus much more…
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