EP. 1987

09/30/26

Vanessa Van Edwards

โ€œI think this is the last generation of humans that will learn to talk to each other by talking to each other.โ€

Why AI Is Making Us Lonelier and How to Truly Connect | Vanessa Van Edwards

The questions you ask on autopilot might be the reason you feel lonely in a room full of people.

Vanessa Van Edwards, a behavioral researcher who has studied master conversationalists for two decades, sat down with Lewis to talk about why so much of our talking leaves us empty. One in six people worldwide are affected by loneliness, and she believes the way we talk to AI is quietly changing the way we talk to each other.

In her book Conversation, she lays out three levels of connection, from basic facts all the way up to the private story you tell yourself about yourself. She explains why โ€œBeen busy?โ€ is the single worst question in small talk, and why asking for stories beats asking for facts every time.

The most honest moment comes when Lewis asks what she still struggles with. Her answer is charging for her own work, a belief she traces back to her early twenties, and you get to hear a level three conversation happen live.

You will walk into your next dinner or team call ready to say โ€œtell me moreโ€ and actually mean it. Pick one person you love and ask them a better question tonight. You might be surprised how deep your relationships can go.

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โ€œConfidence is not the absence of awkwardness. Confidence is feeling a little awkward and doing it anyway.โ€ – Vanessa Van Edwards
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And now let’s jump into episode 1987 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • What is the biggest thing human beings are lacking that will create more abundance for them in their relationships as they continue to use AI more?
  • What is the worst question anyone should ask someone just meeting for the first time?
  • What’s the best response for someone to break the pattern if someone asks you, What do you do?
  • What’s a better question to ask someone instead of what’s your story?
  • What’s the thing that you feel you struggle with the most internally or externally?
  • What is the best way to signal that you have competence and confidence?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Replace dead end small talk like โ€œBeen busy?โ€ with questions that invite stories instead of facts
  • Discover Dr. Dan McAdamsโ€™ three levels of connection to move any conversation past surface chatter
  • Become a dream builder who adds energy to other peopleโ€™s ideas instead of poking holes in them
  • Signal warmth and competence through your body language and voice so people believe what you bring
  • Rewrite the self narrative holding you back by shifting from contamination stories to redemption stories
  • Break the loneliness cycle by practicing real conversation skills that AI can never replace
  • Plus much more…
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