EP. 1958

07/24/26

Kelly McGonigal

“Self-doubt can also be a gift.”

The Real Reason Stress Is Hurting You | Kelly McGonigal

Your body can’t tell the difference between anxiety and excitement. The only difference is the story you tell yourself.

Kelly McGonigal has spent her career at Stanford studying that story, and how the way you think about stress can quite literally change your biology, your relationships, and how long you live.

She will show you why the fear of stress may be more dangerous than stress itself, and why one built in instinct can stop you from burning out completely once you know how to trigger it.

You will learn why depression lies to you, why receiving support feels harder than giving it, why your body has a built in brake pedal for temptation, and what a rescue animal can teach you about earning real connection.

There is a reason movement changes your brain chemistry more than almost anything else you could choose, and this conversation will make you rethink every hard moment you have ever tried to avoid.

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The Joy of Movement: How exercise helps us find happiness, hope, connection, and courage

The Upside of Stress: Why Stress Is Good for You, and How to Get Good at It

The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do To Get More of It

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And now let’s jump into episode 1958 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • Can you tell us why our thought around stress is more important than the stress itself?
  • When do we know that we are experiencing good stress versus bad stress?
  • What’s the reason for depression for human beings?
  • What do you think are the three or four things that can help us get out of a depressed state of being, whether it’s been for weeks, months, years, or moments?
  • Why is it so hard to receive acknowledgement, gratitude, compassion, compliments from others?
  • Can you break down what the runner’s high or the exercise high actually does for the body or the mind scientifically?
  • So where do you struggle the most in your life right now? What is your greatest fear?
  • What happens to us as humans individually when we always see the bad?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Discover why believing stress is harmful may be more dangerous than the stress itself
  • Learn the pause and plan response, a built in instinct that can rebuild your willpower in the moment
  • Uncover the real reason depression takes hold and four ways to work through it
  • Overcome the discomfort of receiving gratitude and support from others
  • Recognize the brain chemistry behind the runner’s high and why it makes you more social, not less
  • Plus much more…

Show Notes:

  • The Upside of Stress: Why Stress Is Good for You, and How to Get Good at It
  • The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do To Get More of It
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