EP. 784

04/15/19

Maisie Williams

HOW DO YOU TALK TO YOURSELF?

Be Your Own Hero

Imagine this: Your palms are sweaty. Your heart is beating fast. Your legs feel like jelly, and your stomach is full of butterflies. Whatever youโ€™re about to do, youโ€™re extremely nervous about it.

Actress Maisie Williams โ€” you probably know her from a little show called Game of Thrones โ€” is no stranger to that feeling. You might think, โ€œWhat? Thereโ€™s no way she gets anxious! Sheโ€™s so famous and talented!โ€

Thatโ€™s definitely what I thought at first. But it turns out, Maisie deals with nerves just like the rest of us. She recently gave a fantastic TED Talk, but she felt just the way I described earlier the whole time she was on stage.

Despite her massive talent and world-wide acclaim, Maisie Williams experiences fear and anxiety just like anybody else. But sheโ€™s developed an awesome perspective on anxiety that helps her own her identity and thrive.

In fact, at different times in her life, Maisie has even experienced really low self-esteem and even self-hatred:

โ€œ… sometimes I would be with people and talking, and I would say โ€˜I hate myself.โ€™ Itโ€™s just because thoughts in my head [were] getting overwhelming that I would just say [them] out loud and not realize that I had done that. โ€ฆ I felt very negatively about myself.โ€ – Maisie Williams

In our interview, Maisie and I get real. We talk about where anxiety comes from and the low self-esteem that a lot of young women face. We get into identity and discuss the importance of embracing who you are. And we talk about the power of self-care and the importance of looking into yourself for love and validation instead of finding those things in external sources.

Maise Williams is an incredible inspiration to me, and I know sheโ€™s going to inspire you too, so letโ€™s dive in!

Who Is Maisie Williams?

Maisie Williams is one of the most acclaimed actresses of her generation. She earned a major role in HBOโ€™s Game of Thrones when she was just 14 years old, and sheโ€™s been acting ever since. Sheโ€™s been showing us her talent for becoming different characters on screen for over 10 years, so she definitely knows what itโ€™s like to grow up on camera!

Maisie has even won awards for her work on Game of Thrones, including a Primetime Emmy Award for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series. Sheโ€™s a real talent and a true inspiration to a young generation.

Besides being a prolific actress, Maisie is passionate about creating great original content. Sheโ€™s getting ready to launch her own podcast called Thinking Big with Maisie Williams. The podcast will feature up-and-coming creative people and will explore their childhood dreams, present career successes, and future goals. I know Iโ€™m looking forward to listening!

And finally, Maisie is also getting ready to launch a very special website. In fact, itโ€™s her very own social media platform called Daisie just for creative people to meet each other and find networking opportunities. Iโ€™ll let her explain it:

โ€œPeople always say, โ€˜if you want to be in the industry, itโ€™s not what you know, itโ€™s who you know.โ€™ And I think when you know nobody thatโ€™s kind of a very jarring thing to hear. So, I wanted to create like a social media platform for artists and creative people to be able to discover โ€ฆ other people across industries and collaborate with them on projects โ€ฆ that they want to build.โ€ – Maisie Williams

Maisie is passionate about her work. She loves creating spaces for artists and creators to come together, build new relationships, and make awesome stuff. Iโ€™m so excited to see what the future of Daisie will be!

Maisie also just loves helping people. She said it herself in our interview โ€” her superpower is empathy. Maisie has a unique skill for understanding the way humans think and feel, and I want to honor her for sharing that talent with the world today.

Maisieโ€™s insights and wisdom about owning your identity despite anxiety are valuable for all of us, and Iโ€™m so excited to get to share them with you today. Letโ€™s go!

Who Are You (Really)?

When youโ€™re an actress, it can be hard to know who you really are. Maisie has been playing characters on TV since she was a kid, and as a result, sheโ€™s experienced times of doubt about her identity.

โ€œI think as an actor you spend your life playing like a character โ€ฆ like Iโ€™ve been doing for about a decade, and you know there are times when I feel like I am putting all like character and portraying a version of myself, but I think thereโ€™s nothing thatโ€™s more terrifying than like truly being yourself, and I get very anxious about a lot of things.โ€ – Maisie Williams

But hereโ€™s the thing: Maisie doesnโ€™t think this is a problem only professional actors and actresses face. She believes that all of us are pretending to be someone all the time, especially on social media.

โ€œAnd I think itโ€™s really the act of โ€ฆ creating a character, of pretending. I think โ€ฆ people live their entire lives pretending to be someone theyโ€™re not. โ€ฆ People donโ€™t really know who they are, and you do that for so long that you really lose touch with who you are.โ€ – Maisie Williams

So how can you discover who you really are? How can you embrace your true identity? For Maisie, it was essential to come to terms with the thing about herself she was trying to hide the most: her anxiety.

โ€œI am a very anxious person, and I donโ€™t know if thereโ€™s a way to fix that about myself. Iโ€™ve definitely tried. [Iโ€™ve] gone through therapy, and Iโ€™ve been medicated, and Iโ€™ve tried a lot of different things. But I think the best โ€ฆ medicine I was ever given was really just [trying] to embrace it and stop trying to fight it really and just accepting thatโ€™s how I deal with things and not letting it stop me from doing a TED Talk.โ€ – Maisie Williams

Maisie has anxiety, and she knows it. She has moments of major panic. But instead of continuing to try to hide behind a mask of false confidence, she embraces that anxiety is just how she processes things.

She isnโ€™t ashamed of herself! She just focuses on doing what she wants to do โ€” like giving that TED Talk or performing in a play on stage in London โ€” and deals with the anxiety when it comes instead of trying to ignore its existence. Confidence doesnโ€™t mean an absence of self-doubt. It means pushing through in spite of that self-doubt to achieve greatness.

Are you hiding behind a mask? What parts of yourself have you been covering up? Choose to embrace your true identity and enjoy the freedom that comes with loving yourself!

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โ€œAs an actor, you spend your life playing a character, but there is nothing more terrifying than truly being yourself.โ€ – @Maisie_Williams
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How Can You Help Other People?

Hereโ€™s the thing: your self-worth canโ€™t come from other people. If youโ€™re constantly hoping that youโ€™ll get enough likes on Instagram to feel completely happy and satisfied with yourself, youโ€™re never going to be truly happy. 

But your self-worth can come from the service you give other people. If youโ€™re genuinely reaching out, investing in relationships, and serving others because you care about them, youโ€™ll find yourself a lot happier.

I asked Maisie where her sense of self-worth comes from these days, and hereโ€™s what she said:

โ€œI think like real connections with people. Like, I pride myself and judge myself based on … how many people are … good to me and help me and how many people I help, like 1:1. I feel like thatโ€™s how I feel Iโ€™m worth something โ€” if I can be that friend to call or if I have someone to call.โ€ – Maisie Williams

Our value truly does come from helping other people, especially when it comes to being open and accepting of each other as we learn to embrace our true identities.

So how can we help each other? Whatโ€™s the best way we can support our friends? Maisie says this is one of the most important questions we can ask our friends:

โ€œWhy do you find it so [much easier] to think bad thoughts than good thoughts?โ€ – Maisie Williams

If you have a friend dealing with low self-esteem or struggling to embrace their identity, ask them that question and then be a good listener. For Maisie, finally meeting someone who asked her that question truly helped her turn a corner and understand her thought process.

And hereโ€™s the thing: when we understand where our negative thoughts come from, we can start to stop them. We can retrain our brains to stop thinking in those same negative patterns and begin to operate from a mindset of self-love instead. 

So take some time today to reach out to the people around you. Invest in your friends and trust that theyโ€™ll invest in you too. When you foster those important relationships, you elevate yourself to a whole new level of greatness.

How Can You Take Care of Yourself?

Itโ€™s critical to take good care of the important relationships in your life, but itโ€™s also essential to take care of yourself. Self-care is the final piece of the puzzle to accepting your identity and embracing yourself for who you are.

โ€œ… I think the last step really for me was just realizing that I [need to] take time for myself, and I need to say โ€˜noโ€™ to things and people, and I need to โ€ฆ actually take the time to sort things when I feel sad because it just makes you [the] most ineffective person when youโ€™re just stressed about a million things.โ€ – Maisie Williams

Itโ€™s so important to take care of yourselves, guys. I cannot emphasize this enough. And while itโ€™s awesome to be a good friend and to do things to help the people around you, make sure youโ€™re taking care of yourself first. If you spend all your energy trying to make everyone else happy first, youโ€™ll burn out fast. Make sure youโ€™re taking time every day to practice self-care.

And what are some ways you can do that? How can you incorporate self-care into your life? For Maisie, self-care is all about slowing down and taking some time to be alone and happy.

โ€œI used to fill everything with seeing people and doing things โ€ฆ but I think really now I look at my life, and itโ€™s like 5 miles an hour, and it just looks peaceful and very calm, and I think that was the biggest change for me is having a free evening.โ€ – Maisie Williams

Do you ever feel like youโ€™re running a million miles an hour? Youโ€™ve got your job, your family, your kids, your friends, your hobbies, and a hundred other things to worry about every day, right?

Sometimes self-care just looks like having a free evening. Itโ€™s slowing down your pace just enough to give yourself a night off. Even just a few hours to chill out and decompress from the day can be enough to fill your cup and re-energize you so you can keep being the best version of you!

Why You Should Listen to this Maisie Williams Podcast Episode Right Nowโ€ฆ

You donโ€™t have to look for validation anywhere else but yourself. Be your own hero! When you decide to believe in your worth and accept yourself for exactly who you are, you become truly great.

Hereโ€™s Maisieโ€™s definition of greatness:

โ€œMy definition of greatness is โ€ฆ that feeling of not being able to be brought down. And itโ€™s not arrogance, and itโ€™s not disregarding other peopleโ€™s feelings, but greatness is a feeling that you can achieve anything, you can be anything. Itโ€™s that feeling that will get you through that next hurdle.โ€ – Maisie Williams

When you choose to love yourself and take care of yourself for exactly who you are, you get that feeling. Your confidence grows, and you can take on any challenge life throws at you.

It all starts with you.

This was a powerful interview, guys. Maisie is such an inspiration to me, and Iโ€™m so glad she agreed to come on the show and share her wisdom!

If you want to connect more with Maisie, make sure to check her out on Twitter and Instagram! And donโ€™t forget to check out her upcoming podcast, Thinking Big with Maisie Williams. I know itโ€™s going to be inspiring! And if youโ€™re a creative person looking to connect with other people, remember to look up Maisieโ€™s new social media platform just for you, Daisie.

But before you click over to any of those other sites, hang out right here just a little longer and listen to this episode. If youโ€™re ready to embrace your identity, be your own hero, and learn how to take better care of yourself and others, you do not want to miss Episode 784 with Maisie Williams!

 

To Greatness,

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Some Questions I Ask:

  • Why is it so terrifying to be yourself? (6:30)
  • Where does anxiety come from for you? (14:00)
  • What are some of the things you do now for self-care? (30:30)
  • What is your greatest fear? (36:30)
  • What is your superpower? (43:00)

In this episode, you will learn:

  • How to be there for someone who is struggling (22:00)
  • How apologizing for things in your past can help you move forward (28:00)
  • Why you need to slow down when youโ€™re struggling with mental health (33:30)
  • What Maisie wants to accomplish in the future (41:00)
  • About her new startup Daisie (48:00)
  • Plus much more…

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