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Joshua Fields Millburn

How Minimalism Can Improve Your Relationships with Money & People


Minimalism has been making waves in recent years. There’s a good reason for it too. Now more than ever, people are constantly connected to their phones, to what’s going on in the world, and to social media. Today, it’s easy for someone to think life is all about hustle, working around the clock, and seeking validation from strangers. All this inevitably leads to us comparing ourselves to those we see online. We might begin wondering why our lives aren’t like theirs, and what must be wrong with us to not have the same things they do. 

These trends set the stage for minimalism to make a massive comeback. Its principles help us stay grounded and connected to the things that matter most in our lives, and distances us from the ones that don’t serve us. By knowing what’s actually essential and what isn’t, we can be that much closer to true happiness. I believe the lessons we can learn from minimalism have something to teach all of us.

One of the biggest champions of the modern minimalism movement is my guest on the show today: Joshua Fields Millburn. I had the opportunity to interview him a few years back, and was excited to have him back in the studio again! He and his business partner, Ryan Nicodemus, are the founders of The Minimalists, which has helped millions of people around the world discover the life-changing benefits of minimalism. 

Joshua is a fellow Ohioan now living in Los Angeles, and I’m so pumped to have him back to discuss how minimalism can help us in so many areas of our lives, from finances to overall fulfillment to mental health. Please help me welcome the one-and-only Joshua Fields Millburn to The School of Greatness!

“Happiness cannot be pursued, it can only be uncovered.” @JFM  

Netflix stars and New York Times–bestselling authors Joshua Fields Millburn and Ryan Nicodemus, known to their audience as The Minimalists, help millions of people live meaningful lives with less through their website, books, podcast, and films. They have been featured in the Wall Street Journal, Time magazine, and GQ, and they have spoken at Harvard, Apple, and Google. With more than 100 million downloads, The Minimalists Podcast is one of the most popular shows on Apple Podcasts. Both raised in Dayton, Ohio, they currently live in Los Angeles.

If you’re tired of constantly having to keep up with the “social media Joneses”, I encourage you to listen to this episode. It’s the first of two parts of my interview with Joshua, and I’m confident you’ll get a lot of value from what we discuss. And now, please join me for Episode 1,161 of The School of Greatness!

“No wonder we’re not happy, we’ve covered up the innate happiness that already exists inside us.” @JFM  

Some Questions I Ask:

  • What was the biggest challenge you’ve had to overcome over the last few years?
  • What does deep depression feel like to you?
  • How do you make a relationship work when you have different values?
  • How do we heal our relationship with money?
  • What is our relationship with creativity?
  • What is the difference between pleasure and happiness?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • How Joshua was able to understand and help his depression.
  • The benefits of minimalism and organizing your life.
  • How to support people around us without trying to “fix” them.
  • How to heal your relationship with money.
  • The best minimalist budgeting tips.
  • And much more…

Show Notes:

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