EP. 1977

09/08/26

Angela Duckworth

“Effort isn’t enough. Grit’s not enough.”

Why Grit Isn't Enough to Get What You Want | Angela Duckworth

Your husband being unimpressed with your work isn’t neutral. It’s the whole ceiling on what you become.

Angela Duckworth, the psychologist who made “grit” a household word, sat down with Lewis and confessed something her research almost missed. Effort alone doesn’t build a great life. The situation you’re in does, and no one shapes that situation more than the person you marry. She traces it back to her own mother, a gifted painter who gave up her art for fifty years married to a man who walked past her paintings without a word.

Then Angela goes further, into a marriage crisis she and her husband Jason never talked about publicly. Both of them were try-harder people who worked themselves into misery during the 2008 crash, until Angela told him on a walk that she cried every night and didn’t want to be married anymore. What saved them wasn’t more grit. It was therapy, three therapists between two people, and a willingness to change the situation instead of just pushing through it.

Lewis matches her story with his own, requiring therapy before he’d even commit to dating Martha, because every past relationship had only gone to therapy once it was already collapsing. Angela ties it back to the Pygmalion effect. Your confidence is borrowed from the people who believe in you before you believe in yourself.

By the end you’ll want to look around at your own life and ask who’s actually bringing out your best. Angela’s mother didn’t paint again until her husband died. Now, at 91, she paints every day.

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“Believing you can do something always precedes doing it. You don't do things you don't believe you can do.” – Angela Duckworth
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And now let’s jump into episode 1977 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • I’m curious to ask you first, if you could have all the grit in the world but not have proximity to the right environment, do you believe we could still accomplish our big goals and dreams?
  • So I’m curious, how i- in your research or in your perspective, if you have the right proximity and the right situation and the right environment and grit, but you’re with the wrong person, intimately, how much does that impact your ability to succeed or fail?
  • But you had the talent, you had the smarts, the skills, the other relation- the network. You, you know, would you s- Like, why wouldn’t you be where you are without the right intimate partner?
  • Do you feel like you’d still be married and as successful as you are in your career if you didn’t go through therapy with him at that season?
  • Does he speak good words into you on a consistent basis around your project that you’re working on?
  • Do you think you would’ve been able to overcome that with that type of situation?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Discover why proximity, not just grit, determines whether your effort ever pays off
  • Learn how changing your situation, not trying harder, rescued a marriage on the brink of divorce
  • Recognize the fundamental attribution error and why the power of situation is invisible until you name it
  • Challenge the shame around therapy and see how it can rebuild a struggling relationship
  • Uncover the Pygmalion effect and how others’ belief in you shapes your own confidence
  • Plus much more…
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