EP. 1967

08/14/26

Chris Voss

“No is almost never rejection. It’s a signal that there’s another path.”

Why NO Is More Powerful Than YES | Chris Voss

You’ve been taught that YES means you won. Chris Voss says it’s usually the moment you get played.

The former lead FBI international kidnapping negotiator built a career proving the opposite of what most of us believe about persuasion. NO isn’t rejection. It’s the moment the real conversation starts. YES, more often than not, is a counterfeit answer people give just to get you off the phone.

Voss is the founder of The Black Swan Group and the author of Never Split the Difference, and in this conversation he breaks down the exact language that turns a stuck negotiation into a done deal. You’ll hear the calibrated questions he used to save hostages, and the same questions people are now using in boardrooms and car dealerships.

He also gets specific. What to say when someone dismisses your price. How to ask for an upgrade without ever demanding one. Why the words you choose in the first nine minutes of any conversation decide how the rest of it goes.

This one will change how you hear the word NO for the rest of your life.

Chrisโ€™ Books:

The Full Fee Agent

Empathy and Understanding In Business

Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It

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And now let’s jump into episode 1967 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • What would you say is the most important word to use in any negotiation?
  • Why is yes not a success?
  • Why is no more powerful than yes?
  • Was there another big mistake people make in negotiation?
  • What’s your success rate?
  • Do you practice every day? On any transaction, even a cup of coffee?
  • What have you noticed about the challenges of virtual negotiations versus in-person negotiations?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Learn why a fast YES is usually a fake yes and how to spot it in real time
  • Discover the calibrated question format Chris used in real FBI hostage negotiations
  • Overcome the instinct to fear a NO and use it to move the conversation forward
  • Recognize the accusations audit and how naming objections before they’re raised disarms them
  • Build a simple script for getting upgrades, discounts, and better deals anywhere
  • Plus much more…
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