EP. 1936

06/03/26

George Kamel

“Being intentional allows you to be more impulsive.”

The Psychology Behind Why You're Still Broke | George Kamel

You can earn half a million dollars a year and still have nothing left by the end of the month.

That’s not a theory. A Goldman Sachs study found 40% of people making over $500,000 are living paycheck to paycheck. The income isn’t the problem. The identity is.

George Kamel, #1 national bestselling author of Breaking Free from Broke and co-host of The Ramsey Show, has taken thousands of calls from people who earned great money and lost it all. People who confused looking rich with building wealth. Couples who kept separate bank accounts right up until the marriage fell apart.

His take: debt is never just a math problem. It’s a behavior problem. And no budget in the world sticks until you decide what kind of person you’re going to be with money.

In this conversation, George breaks down why buy now pay later apps are engineered to increase your cart size by 40%, why prediction markets like Polymarket are doing to young men what gambling apps did to the last generation, and why the moment someone calls a financial decision an “opportunity,” they’ve usually already started justifying a terrible one.

The path to financial peace is simpler than you’ve been told. And it starts with creating friction, not removing it.

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And now let’s jump into episode 1936 of The School of Greatness!

Some Questions I Ask:

  • What is the mindset that needs to change in people in order for their bank account to change?
  • What is financial infidelity and why is it so harmful to a relationship?
  • What is the one thing people buy to look rich that actually guarantees they’ll stay poor?
  • I’ve heard you argue that getting out of debt isn’t just a math problem, it’s a behavior problem. So what is the identity shift that someone has to make before any budget or plan will actually start to stick for them?
  • If someone is a compulsive buyer of things, what is missing inside of them that requires them to constantly buy to feel good?
  • What would be three money rules if you could only apply three in your twenties and thirties?
  • Do you believe the American dream is dead?

In this episode, you will learn:

  • Discover why debt is a psychology problem, not a math problem, and the identity shift you must make before any budget will actually stick
  • Recognize the doom loop of emotional spending and how buy now pay later apps are designed to make you spend more, feel worse, and repeat the cycle
  • Learn the seven Ramsey Baby Steps framework that has helped millions get out of debt and build real generational wealth
  • Apply the SMART Spender framework from Breaking Free from Broke to make intentional purchases without guilt or impulse
  • Understand how financial infidelity quietly destroys marriages and the warning signs hiding in plain sight
  • Plus much more…

Show Notes:

  • Breaking Free From Broke: The Ultimate Guide to More Money and Less Stress
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