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John Maxwell

Learning to Lead


We all go through times of uncertainty.

There are periods we don’t understand what’s happening to us, and we feel unsure of our direction.

It can make you want to give up.

But it’s often when you feel the most lost that you are forced to find your purpose.

Once you know your “why,” you can weather any storm.

You’ll still feel the wind and the waves, but you don’t lose your course.

Use the uncertainty to find your direction.

For this 5-Minute Friday, I revisited a conversation I had with John Maxwell where he shared how a difficult time taught him how to be a leader.

John C. Maxwell is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker who has sold more than 25 million books in fifty languages. In 2014 he was identified as the #1 leader in business by the American Management Association and the most influential leadership expert in the world by Business Insider and Inc. magazine.

Learn how to use tough times to your advantage in Episode 789.

“I wanted to be a shepherd, but I felt more like a rancher.” @JohnCMaxwell  

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In this episode, you will learn:

  • The moment in John’s adult life had the most uncertainty (3:00)
  • The book that changed John’s life (3:30)
  • How scarcity mindset makes for bad leaders (4:00)
  • What gave John purpose (4:30)
  • Plus much more…
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Transcript of this Episode

Lewis: This is 5-Minute Friday!!

Let me introduce you to today’s guest he is an incredible human being his name is John C. Maxwell, he’s a number 1 New York Times best-selling author, coach and speaker who has sold more than 25 million books in 50 languages. And in 2014 he was identified as the number 1 leader in business by the American Management Association and the most influential leadership expert in the world by business insider and inc magazine. He’s also been voted the top leadership professional in the world for 6 consecutive years, he’s trained more than 5 million leaders. In 2015 he reached a milestone of having trained leaders from every country in the world, he is the recipient of the Mother Theresa prize for global peace and leadership from the luminary leadership network. And he speaks each year to fortune 500 companies, presidents of nations, and many of the world’s top business leaders.

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I’m curious you know you’ve had a lot of experience and you’ve had a lot of lessons and met a ton of people, you probably had to reinvent yourself from teenage years and college and beyond and everything you’ve done. I’m curious what was the moment in your life after 16 that had the most uncertainty for you? And what did you learn about that?

John: Well it as at my early 20’s. I started my career off as a pastor and so I was in my church and I was in my first year and I just fell out of place, I really didn’t just want to [?] people all the time I want to grow something, I want to build something, and develop something. And they kind of want me to be a shepherd and I read a book called spiritually [?] by Sanders. Basically, that book said that you could be person of faith and yet be a great leader. That just lit my fire. If I continue my pastor I won’t be a pastor who leads and so I’ve always been a leader from that point on, whatever occupation I’ve been I’m a leader. And it was kind of like permission [?] it didn’t have a leader with kind of scarcity mindset so I was really kind of lost and kind of just saying ‘Wow, I don’t know if this is where I should be.” And kind of second-guessing myself, I read that book and never second- guessed myself again. Now, for 25 years I have been a pastor I have 5 companies on business, but I’m a leader I’m still a leader and it just kind of gave me my purpose or my why of why I am here. As soon as I got that then you know you still go to adversity but the difference is when you go to adversity and you don’t know your purpose then you get tossed around a lot. When you go to adversity and you know your purpose you feel the winds and you can feel the heat process but you don’t get toss and you know who you are and what you’re supposed to do.

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