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Suzy Welch

Find Your Area of Destiny


We often define ourselves by what job we do.

I’m an accountant. I’m a teacher. I work in finance.

But maybe we’re thinking about our careers in the wrong parameters.

Instead of finding a job, we should be trying to find a way to feel excited and fulfilled every day.

If you wake up with dread, you feel like you’re in a suit that’s too small, or you’re uninspired, you’re probably not in the right place.

So how do we figure out what we’re meant to do?

It’s not easy.

But it’s worth trying to figure out.

For this 5-Minute Friday, I revisited a conversation I had with Suzy Welch where she shares how to find your “Area of Destiny.”

Suzy Welch is a business journalist, TV commentator, and public speaker. A popular Today Show and CNBC contributor, Suzy is the author of the New York Times bestseller 10-10-10: A Life Transforming Idea, a guide to values-driven decision making. With her husband, Jack Welch, Suzy founded the Jack Welch Management Institute, ranked as one of the top online MBA programs in the world by Princeton Review and CEO Magazine.

Learn how to figure out what you’re uniquely good at in Episode 840.

“The Abundant Life exists at the intersection of what you’re uniquely good at and what you love doing.” @SuzyWelch  

Some Questions I Ask:

In this episode, you will learn:

  • About the sermon that gave Suzy the idea of the “Area of Destiny” (2:30)
  • The two types of “Super Highways” (3:30)
  • How to find what you’re uniquely good at (4:00)
  • Plus much more…

Show Notes:

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Transcript of this Episode

LEWIS HOWES: This is 5-Minute Friday.


LEWIS HOWES: I’m very excited about today’s guest. I had a lovely time connecting and interviewing Suzy Welch. And for those who don’t know who Suzy is, she was the former Editor-in-chief of the Harvard Business Review, is a work-life columnist for O, The Oprah Magazine. She’s the co-author with her husband, Jack Welch, of the New York Times bestselling book called Winning in the Welch Way which published in Business Week Magazine and internationally by the New York Times Syndicate. She’s involved in several non-profit organizations dealing with education, homelessness, and animal rights, and she is a mother of four children.

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SUZY WELCH: The answer that we give to this question is it revolves around this concept called Area of Destiny and we urge people to do the really hard work, the really hard analysis of figuring out what their area of destiny is and then going there. Just not think about jobs and do not think about industries really as much to think about area of destiny. So just to explain that concept, the idea of Area of Destiny, we first came to it five or six years ago. We were at church, and a pastor named Terry Smith was visiting our church. He actually runs the church called Life Christian Church in West Orange, New Jersey, Terry Smith. And he was preaching about living the abundant life, and he mentioned this term “Area of Destiny” which we immediately started to, in our minds, started to think about the business applications of it, then he talked about the abundant life existing at the intersection of what you’re uniquely good at and what you love doing.

Let’s just step back from that for a minute and just talk about it. So everybody is uniquely good at something, okay? Even though it may not feel like that on some days, but you’re uniquely good at something. A person can be uniquely good at making strangers feel welcome or solving very complex math problems at two variables, if there’s such a thing. Or say, in my case, I’ve always been sort of good at taking complex, sort of academic concepts and boiling them down into very regular vernacular. So I mean, everybody’s sort of uniquely good. [inaudible] uniquely good, it means you’re not the best person in the world but if you’re better than the vast majority of people at something. And then, if you think about that sort of super highway what you’re uniquely good at, and then take the other super highway which is what you love doing. Is it being with other people? Is it talking? Is it watching TV? Is it walking alone on a beach? Is it reading? Is it travelling, okay? And if you think about your calendar over the past month, what were the things that you were doing that just turned your crank. And you intersect that, what you’re uniquely good at and what you love doing. It creates this beautiful, rich, emotional, and intellectual real estate that is this area of destiny. And if you can get there, and everyone can. I mean, I’ve talked about Area of Destiny in front of, at this point, ten of thousands of people and I mean, I love to look at the faces in the audience as people suddenly realize, “Oh, yeah. Well, I’m nowhere near my area of destiny, but I sure as heck know it. I know where it is.” And so, if you’re just coming out of college or if you’re floating around and if you feel like you’re in a suit that’s too small or you just can’t breathe, or you just hate the day, you got to just sit down and think about what your area of destiny is.

Sometimes, when I say it’s hard work, you need to ask people, “What am I uniquely good at?” And, or if you know what you’re uniquely good at, you need to ask people, “Am I uniquely good at this?” And you need to just determine that, then you start thinking about jobs and industries. That’s the beginning, that’s the beginning.


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