Rebekah Neumann

Lewis Howes:                 This is episode number 716, with WeWork founding partner, Rebekah Neumann.

Welcome to The School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro-athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur and each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now, let the class begin.

Benjamin Franklin said, “Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success, have no meaning.”

And John F Kennedy said, “Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth.”

And today we have a powerful episode with Rebekah Neumann, who is known for not conforming to society and for innovating her ideas for a better humanity. She is the founder and CEO of WeGrow, and founding partner and Chief Brand Officer of WeWork.

As the Chief Brand Officer she directed the company’s mission values and culture from inception and, as an artist, filmmaker, entrepreneur and yogi, she has also gained a certification as a yoga teacher and acted in and produced a number of film projects.

She majored in business and studied Buddhism at Cornell University. She’s an avid student of life, travelled the world apprenticing and studying under many of the greats such as his holiness the Dalai Lama, and mother nature herself.

She is a mother to five young children and is committed to creating a conscious educational community that fosters growth in children’s minds, bodies, and souls, unleashing endless happiness, global citizenship, and every child’s superpowers.

And, boy! Are you in for a treat right now. We’re covering many different topics like what the mission is at WeWork and WeGrow, and the future of work and education in our world. Also, why life is about something much bigger than anything material or superficial and lessons on that.

How betrayal and pain ultimately led to a journey of self-discovery to re-find her centre, and how you can do that as well. How she faces every challenge in her life and business; why she runs a massive business, but doesn’t put her only focus on making money; and how WeWork and WeGrow focused on redefining success to include fulfilment, happiness, and generosity and how you can incorporate that in your life and business as well.

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Alright my friends, I’m excited about this one, get ready for the one, the only, Rebekah Neumann!

Alright, welcome, everyone, to The School of Greatness Podcast. We’ve got Rebekah Neuman in the house. Good to see you! Thank you so much for being here, I appreciate it.

I’m in your house, actually; this is the WeWork headquarters. And thank you, again, for having me. This is exciting.

Rebekah Neumann:       Thanks for having me.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah, this is fun! Now, you are, just so I’ve got it clear, you are a founding partner and Chief Brand Officer of WeWork, but also founder and CEO of WeGrow, which is a whole new organisation within WeWork, is that right?

Rebekah Neumann:       Exactly.

Lewis Howes:                 And what is the mission of WeGrow, just so I understand clearly?

Rebekah Neumann:       The mission of WeGrow and, quite honestly, the collective We that we’re all living under, is to elevate the world’s consciousness. That we grow specifically through unleashing every person’s superpowers, and expanding happiness.

Lewis Howes:                 Okay, and WeGrow is starting as a school, but it’s going to be evolving into much more, I’m assuming, right?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yes. It’s kind of a practice on a new approach to life. We have started with children, but we’re as soon as next week starting to pilot some of the curriculum on our WeGrown-ups.

Lewis Howes:                 Really?

Rebekah Neumann:       Uh-huh!

Lewis Howes:                 Is that what you call us? For fun?

Rebekah Neumann:       Just for the moment. Yeah! Why not?

Lewis Howes:                 Now, why did you want to get into this? Because you guys started WeWork eight years ago, roughly? 2010, 2011 was when the ideas came to life, was it?

Rebekah Neumann:       That’s right.

Lewis Howes:                 Now you have, I believe, close to 8,000 employees and close to 210,000 global members, which is fascinating and crazy. And how did the idea actually start with WeWork?

Rebekah Neumann:       The idea for WeWork started because, gosh, it came from a lot of things coming together. First of all my husband and Miguel, the co-founders, both grew up on kind of communes. My husband on a Kibbutz in Israel and Miguel on a commune in Oregon, so they very much from their childhood, understood the power of community.

They both also were struggling entrepreneurs in Dumbo, Brooklyn. When I met Adam, and they thought if they could create a platform that would help entrepreneurs and creators really do what they love, and not worry so much about the logistics, that that would be great gift to give the world.

Lewis Howes:                 So they were struggling entrepreneurs themselves?

Rebekah Neumann:       Oh yeah. When I met my husband, he couldn’t buy me dinner, or even afford a taxi.

Lewis Howes:                 Really? What year was this, when you guys met?

Rebekah Neumann:       We met eleven years ago, and we got married a few months after that.

Lewis Howes:                 Really? Wow!

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, it was quick.

Lewis Howes:                 You guys acted fast.

Rebekah Neumann:       We did! Before that time from about twenty-three to twenty-nine, when I met him, I actually didn’t date anyone.

Lewis Howes:                 For five, six years you didn’t date anyone.

Rebekah Neumann:       No dating.

Lewis Howes:                 You didn’t go on one date?

Rebekah Neumann:       I didn’t go on one date.

Lewis Howes:                 What was that reasoning?

Rebekah Neumann:       I was studying life and wanted to have a deeper understanding of who I was, and what my purpose was and, kind of, why I was on this planet, before I opened up to welcoming in a partner.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow!

Rebekah Neumann:       I know, it’s a little out there, but that’s what I liked.

Lewis Howes:                 I like that! So what made you get to that place? Did you have a bad experience with a partner when you were twenty-one? Or did you say, “Okay, this really isn’t for me, let me just be single.”?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, I think it was a combination of a few things. The first thing is, when I was eleven, my brother passed away, and I was very close to him, he was twenty-three. At a very young age I started to understand that life is about something much bigger than anything material or superficial.

I grew up in a comfortable home and all of that, but when someone you love dies, it puts everything in perspective and you realise that there’s a bigger purpose to life. And when I was in college my parents split up and right after college I went through a terrible break-up and my boyfriend ended up running off with my best friend.

Lewis Howes:                 No way!

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, so that was intense and there was a lot of betrayal and pain, but, ultimately, thank God, that led me on a journey of self-discovery, because I had to kind of re-find myself and my centre and my raison d’être.

Lewis Howes:                 There you go! Is there anything that you still hold onto? Any pain?

Rebekah Neumann:       No.

Lewis Howes:                 Do you feel like you’ve forgiven and let go of everything?

Rebekah Neumann:       I did. Yeah, no, I love everyone, I’m so happy and grateful, and I have my husband and my babies, and thank God is all I can say. It’s all perfectly constructed. I think life is perfectly constructed for us to, if we kind of take the cues, become our best and most fulfilled self.

That doesn’t mean it’s always easy, there are really challenging times, but if we take every challenge as an opportunity for growth, then I think we’re constantly going to become more happy and fulfilled.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah. Now, did I understand that in your twenties you studied Buddhism and business, you are an artist, a yoga instructor, actor, producer, director.

Rebekah Neumann:       And stock trader.

Lewis Howes:                 And stock trader. For many years a stock trader, right?

Rebekah Neumann:       No, the stock trading was a quick little thing I did. I did not know what I wanted to do, I went to Cornell, and when I graduated from Cornell, the kind of job to get was to go into a sales and trading analyst program at one of the banks.

So, I jumped into that, it was not my calling, and very soon after that I went to India to Dharamsala, where the Tibetan community in exile is living and I studied with his holiness The Dalai Lama and his monks.

I also studied Tibetan Buddhism at Cornell. I love to study all different spiritual paths. To me, ultimately, what’s so beautiful is that they all say the same exact thing.

Lewis Howes:                 Which is what?

Rebekah Neumann:       Which is that, if we can all come together and be in a true state of unity and ‘we’ then the world will be a beautiful place and not only that, but that is the true reality, we just can’t see it or feel it with our five senses, but on an energy level, we are all one entity.

The joke’s on us, because we think we’re different, but we’re not. We look different, our stories are different, our history is different but, spiritually, we’re all aligned.

Lewis Howes:                 How are we very similar do you think?

Rebekah Neumann:       You and I?

Lewis Howes:                 Yes, you and I, but also just any human that you meet.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yes, well, I can jump into you and I if you like.

Lewis Howes:                 Just do it!

Rebekah Neumann:       So, one of my superpowers is intuition, so I feel things. I think we’re similar because I think what drives you is goodness and kindness and compassion, and I feel that you are authentically trying to make the world a better place and that you’re in your life’s work, and that your work is a genuine act of sharing.

And I’m driven by the same things, and I started WeGrow, our school, as an act of sharing, and WeWork was started as an act of sharing. Our intention was never to find a way to make the most money.

When I met my husband I had just come off a month in the woods, up at Omega, eating strictly vegan, meditating a few hours a day and getting certified as a jivamukti yogi. So, my intention when I met him was just, “How do we expand this good vibration to the planet, and that’s, sort of, what’s motivated everything from the beginning.

It’s not some brand thing we are layers on top to sound conscious, it’s authentically our DNA.

Lewis Howes:                 So you weren’t trying to make money. Was he, since he was struggling?

Rebekah Neumann:       When I initially met him he was.

Lewis Howes:                 He couldn’t pay for food, right?

Rebekah Neumann:       No, he was trying and failing, because if you only focus on trying to make money, first of all it might not happen, and second of all, even if it does, you might not be happy.

Lewis Howes:                 You’ll be miserable, yeah.

Rebekah Neumann:       So, we have really focused in redefining success to include fulfilment, happiness, and generosity.

Lewis Howes:                 Absolutely! I think it’s really, you know, I’ve interviewed a lot of people and I think the ones that have figured it out are the ones that have made it about impact and fulfilment. And then, typically, the money will follow.

If you follow the impact and fulfilment, or if you pursue that first. You pursue the thing that you truly love. So I think that’s the thing that’s going to help us overcome challenges. If we don’t love something, or if we’re not at least curious about loving it, or excited about it, why would be want to stick through the adversity or the challenges? Because it’s going to come, either way.

Rebekah Neumann:       Right, well ultimately, as we all know, love is what’s going to get us through everything, and when you’re creating, you can’t be in a state of destroying. So, I think, if we can all come together as creators, and be creating from a place of passion, then hopefully we can turn the dial down on all things destructive.

Lewis Howes:                 Do you ever hate anything?

Rebekah Neumann:       No.

Lewis Howes:                 Has there been a time in your life where you just hated something?

Rebekah Neumann:       I feel scared of things, and sad about things.

Lewis Howes:                 Like what?

Rebekah Neumann:       Any cruelty. I feel really sad about cruelty to animals. I could cry, but I feel terrible about kids suffering. I feel bad about what we’re doing to the planet, but I don’t hate anyone, because I think most people who are not acting correctly just don’t know better.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah. How do we educate people more?

Rebekah Neumann:       That’s what we’re trying to do with our school. We’ve got to start with kids, but then we’ve got to bring it to grown-ups. If we can teach people that, by being conscious and sharing, they’re going to be more fulfilled and successful, that that’s kind of the winning formula: find your superpower, find your superpassion and use it to share and make the world better.

If people understand that that will also equal all of the material things they want, then hopefully we’ll get people more on that wagon and also if people can come to realise that we’re all one, then they’ll treat others the way that they want to be treated.

Lewis Howes:                 Who came up with the word, ‘WeWork’?

Rebekah Neumann:       Ah, that’s a good one! So, my friend, Andrew Finkelstein, who I went to college with, was a friend of my husband’s – they had met on the roof of their apartment building – he introduced my husband and I, and he also came up with the name, ‘WeWork’.

We had a bunch of bad names. The first iteration of this company was called GreenDesk. So here was GreenDesk, before WeWork, and we were looking for a name for the company and failing miserably and then Andrew, who is an agent at WME, he’s also a complete creative and a writer.

I think just before he fell asleep one night, it came to him.

Lewis Howes:                 WeWork, yeah. Did you guys imagine that this would happen? Was this the dream? Like, “Let’s have these 8,000 employees and two-hundred-and-something members around the world, and this multi-billion dollar company,” as struggling artists, essentially.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, I don’t think that we dream in numbers, it’s more of an energy and a movement that we can feel. But from the first moment I met my husband, even though he was broke and all of that – which completely didn’t matter to me – I could see that, together, we were going to create something that was going to be large scale for the planet.

That’s why I married him.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow. Now, had he created anything large scale or successful?

Rebekah Neumann:       Well, he thought he had, but no. He was making baby clothes when we met.

Lewis Howes:                 Baby clothes?

Rebekah Neumann:       He actually, his first endeavour was called ‘Crawlers’.  He made babies’ pants with knee pads, so that when crawling babies would crawl, their knees wouldn’t hurt.

Lewis Howes:                 Did he have kids before?

Rebekah Neumann:       He did not have kids, no, and who he worked with kids, the baby clothes did not actually fit kids. The buttons on them would stab, I mean, they were very sharp, it was really a hot mess, but he learned a lot in the process.

Lewis Howes:                 Why did he do baby clothes?

Rebekah Neumann:       I’m not quite sure, I think he thought, or maybe, I don’t know, he and his sister came up with this concept that babies knees must hurt. Maybe because they were snowboarders, and snowboarding pants… I honestly don’t know.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow. But it failed, is what you’re saying.

Rebekah Neumann:       It succeeded in that he grew through it.

Lewis Howes:                 Oh, sure. He learned.

Rebekah Neumann:       He learned, but I don’t know that it ever was bringing in more revenue than it was spending.

Lewis Howes:                 That’s crazy! So what did you see in him that said, like, “Okay, here’s the man that I’m going to partner my life with, and help create life together with, and help thousands of entrepreneurs thrive in the world, and create consciousness through education.”?

How did you see that though baby’s knees hurting?

Rebekah Neumann:       It’s a great question! First of all, I didn’t see the ‘we’ and I didn’t know how it was going to manifest, and I didn’t see the babies so much either. I mean, maybe I saw our future babies, but not the babies’ knees.

I just knew that he was going to be the man that was going to, hopefully, help save the world.

Lewis Howes:                 What was that feeling? What was that certainty that you saw?

Rebekah Neumann:       The second I met him, I felt that I had already known him before, for sure, and that I could kind of see into the future. It felt almost like time stopped. I can’t really explain it, but I knew that there also was no ceiling on his potential, or on our potential together.

Everyone I ever met before – like the day after I met him, my mother said, “Are you going to marry this guy?” And I said, “I don’t know if I’m going to marry him, but I can’t tell you that I’m not.” And everyone else I met, I could always feel within a first few minutes or an hour where that would hit a ceiling.

So, there’s no ceiling on Adam, that’s for sure.

Lewis Howes:                 What’s the three most powerful superpowers, qualities, that he has?

Rebekah Neumann:       That’s a great one! First of all, he is undyingly loyal. Sometimes almost to a fault, to be honest, but I admire that. He is loyal to the end. I think a lot of Israelis have that, actually. There’s this deep commitment to whomever your people are, you’re with them.

He also, more than anyone I have met in my entire life, has the ability to change, and grow. So, he and I constantly are working on ourselves. There’s always something in ourself that we’re trying to get better at, whether it’s I’m trying to cultivate more patience, or he’s trying to – when we first met he was trying not to be in his ego as much.

But we’re constantly working on these things. He moves through them, kind of, much more like Neo in The Matrix, at mach speed, and then he goes to the next thing. So I find that really admirable, his ability to grow and change.

Third superpower is, he can manifest anything. He can literally make things appear out of thin air. I’ve never seen anything like it. I like him, as you can tell.

Lewis Howes:                 That’s cool. What’s the thing you think you get to evolve in the most? Besides the patience, which I just heard, which is probably hard, as a mom of five.

Rebekah Neumann:       Well, I’m working on patience. I’m also working on not ever getting angry. I don’t really think there’s a place for anger, but [when] I grew up my father would get angry sometimes and I feel like, genetically, or I don’t know if it’s nature or nurture, we inherit these kinds of default places, so I’m working on that.

Lewis Howes:                 How often do you get angry?

Rebekah Neumann:       Not that often, but sometimes, when I get impatient, I snap, and I don’t speak in the prefect way and that doesn’t work for me or the people that I’m communicating to and then I obviously feel bad after.

Lewis Howes:                 Isn’t there something that’s good about anger? Or expressing emotions in general? Maybe it’s not good to hold onto these emotions, but anger can also teach us something of what’s not working. Like, I’m angry about something, like animal cruelty, or children cruelty, or something, and so it’s like, “How can I make a difference?”

Not hold onto it, but use it as a learning tool.

Rebekah Neumann:       Right, to propel you forward, in a sense.

Lewis Howes:                 Right, to do something, then, to take action.

Rebekah Neumann:       Right, into action. I tend to find that underneath the anger, there’s another emotion, usually.

Lewis Howes:                 What’s that?

Rebekah Neumann:       It depends on the situation, but it could be pain, usually fear or pain. Anger, to me, is usually on top of that, if that makes sense, so I try to go to the deeper emotion.

Lewis Howes:                 What’s your biggest fear right now?

Rebekah Neumann:       I think, because my brother passed away when I was young, I have some phobias around wellness and health, not for myself, but now that I have kids – thank God they’re great – but every time something small happens, I feel fear inside of myself that I’m trying to overcome. That’s probably the biggest thing I’m trying to work on myself right now, is to transcend fear. It’s hard, for me.

Lewis Howes:                 Do you know any mothers that aren’t afraid for the safety of their children?

Rebekah Neumann:       I do know some mothers that don’t really live in fear that often, yeah. Yes, I do.

Lewis Howes:                 Are they not loving mothers?

Rebekah Neumann:       No, they’re actually the most loving. I think they have just come to a place where they realise that fear is not going to protect, and it’s not an energy that is going to help their kids feel safe. Because kids feel what you feel.

Lewis Howes:                 Because your dad did that.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yes.

Lewis Howes:                 Your dad expressed anger or fear, right? And it doesn’t make you feel safe.

Rebekah Neumann:       Right, or my mom expressed fear and my dad, anger.

Lewis Howes:                 And that didn’t help you feel safe.

Rebekah Neumann:       No, because if I’m sitting here and I feel fear, you’re going to feel fear.

Lewis Howes:                 That’s right and if you project it on me.

Rebekah Neumann:       And if you’re a child, you’re going to absorb it completely, because kids absorb the vibration much more than what’s said to them.

Lewis Howes:                 The energy.

Rebekah Neumann:       The energy. Which is why, at WeGrow, I’m so focused on the culture and the vibration and the space, and that the teachers are conscious and kind and healthy human beings, because kids absorb the vibration, I think, more than, you know, what our words are saying.

Lewis Howes:                 When I was over there yesterday I peeked in for, like, three minutes. It was a complete opposite of when I went to school. Which is, you know, I’m dyslexic, whether you want to lable it or not, but I grew up very…

Rebekah Neumann:       I wouldn’t lable it.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah, right. But if you want to lable it, right? I grew up, unfortunately, in the school system I was in they would rank our grade cards, based on all the kids in the class. So I was always in the bottom four. Based on how many students there were they would see the number on the grade card.

Rebekah Neumann:       Good for you.

Lewis Howes:                 Right, yeah? It was fun. Really helped me, like, with my confidence. And the testing and just how everything was structured, I was an athlete, that’s how I got my learning and my teaching, it was on the sports field.

Rebekah Neumann:       Through your body, exactly.

Lewis Howes:                 Through my body. After school, when the bell rang, it was, like, “Thank goodness! Now I can go learn something.” Because my coach was going to teach me something. “I’m going to learn something through mistakes. I’m going to get to collaborate with my team mates and connect with them.

Rebekah Neumann:       Physically.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah, and move around.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yes, movement.

Lewis Howes:                 That’s where I thrived. And so I just waited all day until sports. And it was miserable, because I just had to take these tests and I could never test well, and I couldn’t read an write. I had a second grade reading level in eighth grade, so I had a tutor my entire life until I graduated college, which took me seven years.

And I always struggled, because I always felt like I was just this dumb kid, this kid that was never going to be able to learn in that structure. And so, when I see stuff that you’re doing, it just really inspires me and gives me a lot of hope, because I know there’s a lot of kids that don’t learn that well in that structure.

They learn in different structures, and I see what you’re doing, just seeing it for a few moments, it brought me to this emotional state. I was, like, “Wow, I wish I had this.” Because I can only imagine where I’d be if I had that type of structure in my life that allowed me to express my superpowers, as opposed to two hours a day of practice, having the whole day.

So, what got you inspired to launch a school that was different than everything else? And what is the structure of the school that WeGrow is right now?

Rebekah Neumann:       First of all, I want to commend you for manifesting your superpowers, albeit a challenging situation, because you’re obviously doing your life’s work, and it’s incredible, so thank you.

Lewis Howes:                 Thank you, yeah.

Rebekah Neumann:       What got me to do this is basically all of the things you just said, having grown up in New York and going to one of the most prestigious middle and high schools and on to an Ivy League and all of that.

Lewis Howes:                 Because you went to private schools all your life.

Rebekah Neumann:       I actually was in public until seventh, which I liked. And I liked Horace Mann, where I went to private as well, as well as Cornell, they were all great schools academically, but I didn’t feel that any of these institutions were, as part of their mission, trying to cultivate whole compassionate human beings, who were in touch with whatever their superpower might be, and teaching how to use that power to help the planet.

That wasn’t what was happening there, it was more like, “This is what’s happening, regardless of who you are and what your gift may or may not be and we’re going to judge you and assess you on this very simple scale,” which you just laid out.

I don’t believe in the concept of some kids being gifted and talented, I think that’s one of the most bogus things I’ve ever heard of in  my entire life. Every human is gifted and talented. It’s just, if we’re lazy and we’re going to limit ‘gifted and talented’ to one acumen or IQ or whatever, the issue is on the adults, not the children, because the children are all perfect.

So, for me, first of all, we place equal emphasis and priority on your spirit and your mind and your body, and however you learn is just fine. My husband is dyslexic as well. I don’t think he read until he was in fourth grade. A lot of the most brilliant people I know have what other people would tag as learning disabilities.

I don’t even like that term, either. But on the physical front, for example, we have a track at WeGrow. Any time a child needs to move, he gets up and he lops around the track. Because kids are not meant to sit still all day, this is just common sense if you’ve been a parent. And what happens in schools right now is, we make the kids sit still all day, we feed them ton of refined white sugar and stuff, they can’t sit still and then we drug them with Ritalin.

That’s not normal. Why cant we feed them conscious, whole-grain, plant-based foods, let them go out in nature, touch the Earth, let them move around when they need to move their bodies during their day, and let passion be the driver of their education. Whatever they’re into, we’re into.

And once you align the curriculum with their passion – as Einstein said, “Passion is the greatest driver, love way more than a sense of duty.” Once you build the curriculum around them and then of course we have our entire community of WeWork employees and members to mentor them.

So, whatever a kid’s into, like if it was you, you would have been with some great athlete in a mentorship, one on one at age seven. You could have started to explore that. Then it’s not on us any  more to try to get them to do anything, they’re doing it for us.

And, to be completely honest, we are learning more from them than we could ever teach them, because children are already in this, kind of, perfected state.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow! Drop the mic! I like it. And what I heard so far, I just was getting some insights yesterday, is that once a week they get on a local farm, is that what they do?

Rebekah Neumann:       They do. They spend one full day a week in nature, farming and just running and being and meditating in nature.

Lewis Howes:                 With animals? Like, farm animals, too?

Rebekah Neumann:       There will be animals, there are not currently, but they plant seeds, they harvest their crops, they bring them back to the city, they run a farm stand at WeWork and then they donate all of the proceeds to a non-profit that they are actually involved in and invested in, that they choose.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow! Because I saw them come upstairs yesterday.

Rebekah Neumann:       Did you see the farm stand?

Lewis Howes:                 I saw the farm stand, and I didn’t see them actually selling, but I heard somebody telling – they’re all like little hustlers, running around, trying to sell you carrots and stuff.

Rebekah Neumann:       Nice! Oh, yeah! They’re into it! They’re super motivated.

Lewis Howes:                 Just charming you.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yup! They don’t need our help. I mean, the second that stand opens even, the first one, this is the second year we’re doing this, they are off to the races and I think it’s really empowering for them to understand that this is not turning them into entrepreneurs who are focused on making money at this age, or anything like that, that is not the point.

But for them to understand that they can actually plant something, pull it out of the earth, sell it and then help – last year it was animals – it’s a full circuit of what I call conscious entrepreneurship, creating for the benefit of.

And they are learning everything from marketing to math to science, and then, whatever it is that they don’t understand, we call the WeWork employees in that department, let’s say it’s branding and they come down and they give a master class.

So last year their Tee-shirts, instead of ‘Do What You Love’, said, ‘Eat What You Love’ they come up with this and it’s just fun and it’s completely student created and I can’t imagine doing it any other way.

Rebekah Neumann:       No. Totally, I was never planning to go into education. I was into acting and yoga and, no, this came, honestly, out of left field, but it does make sense and I am using all of the different things that I’ve studied. I’m using my entire self in this initiative.

Lewis Howes:                 Do you feel like everything you’ve done up to this point was to teach you how to do this?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yes.

Lewis Howes:                 How does that feel?

Rebekah Neumann:       It feels really good, because I know that the universe is not random and that no energy is wasted. I felt bad when I studied acting for years, and then I blew it and couldn’t manifest that career.

Lewis Howes:                 Why did you feel bad?

Rebekah Neumann:       Because I felt like a loser.

Lewis Howes:                 Because you weren’t booking the big roles.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah,  wasn’t booking jobs, it wasn’t happening! But it wasn’t meant to happen, because that wasn’t my calling. And it wasn’t, also, how I was going to help others, but I didn’t know that, because I wasn’t taught, as a child, that my life’s work has to be a way to help others.

Lewis Howes:                 What were you taught, as a child?

Rebekah Neumann:       I was taught, as a child,  that I was really smart, academically and that that was really impressive and that being in business was a good path to go on and that I should go to an Ivy League school and do that.

Lewis Howes:                 Make your parents proud.

Rebekah Neumann:       That whole thing, and also to be a mom, was really important to my mother. Get married young and have children children young. So, I didn’t do either of those things. I got married at thirty and…

Lewis Howes:                 You are a mother, though.

Rebekah Neumann:       I am a mom, thank God. Being a wife and a mom are definitely the two most important things to me.

Lewis Howes:                 What’s the thing you’re the most proud of that you’ve done?

Rebekah Neumann:       Probably helping my husband and other people around me manifest their callings. And that’s what I’m trying to do with the school as well, is really empower others to manifest their life’s work.

I love empowering other people, it does not make me feel small or less than. It actually makes me feel very fulfilled. I think it’s a specific superpower that women have, because we can conceive life and bear life and to empower others, and I think that goes beyond your own infant and children.

I think we are meant to be in a state of empowerment, always, for others.

Lewis Howes:                 Where do you think you’d be had you booked a couple of big roles in acting?

Rebekah Neumann:       Probably lost and miserable and in my ego. It’s really hard to act and not be about the eye. Because there’s so much focus on, “How do I look? How do I feel? How am I walking? How am I talking?” It’s a lot of ‘I’, it’s not that much ‘we’.

Lewis Howes:                 Its a lot of, like, seeking the awards and, “Is this good enough?” and, “When will I be booked again?”

Rebekah Neumann:       Correct. And what do other think of you?

Lewis Howes:                 “What are they saying about me?”

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, or how will they perceive you?

Lewis Howes:                 “Am I in the right rooms?” and, “Are they inviting me?”

Rebekah Neumann:       That whole thing. I actually felt very empty in that whole world.

Lewis Howes:                 How long were you in that scene?

Rebekah Neumann:       I lived in L.A. for four years, I think. But it’s okay, because I had an incredible acting teacher, Eric Morris, who taught me how to connect with my truth, and that is something I use in life all the time. He is like one of my gurus.

And I also studied a lot of yoga and Buddhism and Kabbalah during that time in L.A. So, you never know.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow, there you go! What was the greatest lesson that acting taught you, that you use today?

Rebekah Neumann:       To be present.

Lewis Howes:                 Because you can’t perform well, if you’re not present, if you’re thinking somewhere else, right?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, if you’re not in, you’re not on.

Lewis Howes:                 You’ve got to drop in.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, you’ve got to be present, you’ve got to drop in. I surf now, and it does the same.

Lewis Howes:                 You surf the Atlantic? It’s cold!

Rebekah Neumann:       I have surfed the Atlantic, this summer, but not right now. My husband’s a little crazier than me, but surfing is awesome, and yoga, of course.

Lewis Howes:                 Are there any actors that you’re aware of that are able to perform at such a high level and also not make it about them?

Rebekah Neumann:       I bet there are, and they’re probably just better at it than me, and that’s fine, I’m happy about that!

Lewis Howes:                 Do you think its possible? Do you know of any, or do you see people, and be, like, “Man! They’re doing a great job of serving humanity, but also they’re a great actor.”

Rebekah Neumann:       Well, yeah, definitely. I mean, a lot of actors, I think, are also serving humanity. I don’t know all of them so intimately, you know what I’m saying? To make a complete…

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah, of course.

Rebekah Neumann:       But I have a lot of close friends and relatives who are incredible actors and they’re also doing incredible things for the world, so I do think that’s, of course, very possible, yeah.

Lewis Howes:                 What is the greatest lesson that your father taught you?

Rebekah Neumann:       To show up and work really, really, hard. There was no being a dilettante in my house. You had to rise up and deliver. So, hard work. I don’t mess around.

Lewis Howes:                 Wow.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, I know, I have that from my dad. He also was an entrepreneur, so I grew up hearing business all the time, and it’s in my blood. So I intuitively understand things in business, that I could never learn in a classroom. And that’s also what I’m trying to do with the WeGrow kids, is expose them to experts, so they can absorb it.

Sometimes we’re driving somewhere on a long car drive and my daughters will be, like, “Daddy, get off the phone, we don’t want to hear you doing business!” And I’m actually, like, “Actually, just listen. I know it sounds, whatever, just listen.”

Lewis Howes:                 So that you pick up.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, and that’s how we all pick up. The whole are of apprenticeship and mentorship is kind of a lost one, and I think it’s one of the greatest, most important things for humanity’s evolution is to be able to apprentice under someone. So, that happens with your parents, naturally.

Lewis Howes:                 And what about your mom? What is the greatest lesson she taught you?

Rebekah Neumann:       Nature. All about nature and the connection to nature. I think, for her, nature is god, and trees are almost people, to her. And I have a profound love of nature, because of that.

We grew up on the top of a little mountain in almost like a tree house, surrounded by trees and she loves the Earth and I love the Earth, and that’s why it’s such a big part of what we’re doing here.

Lewis Howes:                 It sounds like your parents have really shaped you into creating WeGrow into the feminine and the masculine of what they both taught you. You kind of like integrating it both. Like, nature one day a week, is like a requirement, I’m hearing.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, no, for always, nature is going to be a big part.

Lewis Howes:                 And maybe there’s daily activities they do outside?

Rebekah Neumann:       They do, yeah.

Lewis Howes:                 So, there’s that, that your mom has brought to you and instilled in you. And then your dad is lie the apprenticeship,t eh business, the pursue the thing that you love, type of thing, the work very hard.

Rebekah Neumann:       Right, yeah.

Lewis Howes:                 So, these kids aren’t just running around the track and playing in nature all day and just dilly-dallying all day, they’re actually working very hard as well.

Rebekah Neumann:       We are all about it, we work and we grow tenacity and grit and pushing ourselves to our limit.

Lewis Howes:                 In school too?

Rebekah Neumann:       A hundred percent. There is a lot of academic rigour.

Lewis Howes:                 Can you give me an example?

Rebekah Neumann:       Well, here’s an example of how we do it differently, but in a really rigorous way. The kids are responsible for creating their own work schedule, so we don’t say, “Now we are going to do math, and now we are going to teach you math, and now we’re going to teach you this.”

Instead we say, “Today you’re going to need to get through X ,Y, and Z. Here’s your work schedule, you create when you want to do it, and you go through the Montessori materials, and basically teach yourself.”

So, they own their education. The whole education system, as it currently exists, was created so people would go to assembly lines during the industrial revolution and take orders well. There are not a lot of orders being given at WeGrow. The kids are responsible for their own education.

And because we have mixed ages and tons of materials in every room, if the kindergarten child is ready, like there is one, to do second grade math, she’s doing second grade math. It doesn’t matter what grade you’re in. All I said is, “Just make sure that they’re being pushed as far as they want and can go.”

Lewis Howes:                 What happens if they’re like, “Eh, I don’t really want to do this work right now.”?

Rebekah Neumann:       They don’t. That doesn’t happen, because they’re passionate. And if they don’t want to do something right now, then that would be okay, they would just have to get to it later. They could focus on something else.

Lewis Howes:                 In the day.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, or you can give them some creative…

Lewis Howes:                 But you don’t say, “You can’t leave until you finish a certain lesson plan.”?

Rebekah Neumann:       No, but that also bleeds into how we handle homework. Because they have their own work schedule, there’s something they didn’t finish up during the day, they can take their own responsibility and bring it home, and then bring it back.

There are any entrepreneurs in that sense. I mean, in today’s world, no one is going to tell you and give you some map of exactly how you’re meant to live or create. And, I mean, I don’t think you’d want that. That wouldn’t be fun and interesting because it wouldn’t be your own version.

But, yes, definitely the masculine and feminine, the yin and the yang are important to me and I think that we all have masculine and feminine in each one of us, and I think that men who are in touch with their feminine side, I think it’s beautiful.  I think vulnerability is strength in men, and I think women who are in touch with their masculine side, also beautiful.

So, I think it’s about being in balance.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah. Why do you think WeWork has taken off the way it has. Again is the number 210,000 members? I read it online, but I’m not sure if it’s…

Rebekah Neumann:       I’m not so good with the numbers. But if you read it, it’s…

Lewis Howes:                 Okay, gotcha. That’s what I read. But it could be, like, six months outdated. I heard you had 3,000 employees a year ago and now it’s almost 8,000. It’s growing so fast. How do you manage that growth, coming from a struggling actor, with a struggling entrepreneur husband, mentality, how do you guys say, “Wow! This thing is taking off! We’ve never had something take off like this!”

How do you emotionally handle that, and deal with all 7,000 people, and just managing people, and all that energy? That’s the first question, so I’ll let you answer that first.

Rebekah Neumann:       Okay, so the answer to that, the main thing is to stay humble all the time. The second you go into ego, it’s game over. You disconnect from your blessings, you disconnect from your joy, you disconnect from your people. So do not ever go into ego, and do not ever think that you’re great because great things are happening.

So, we’re always humble and profoundly grateful. That’s the first thing. And the other thing is that we’re constantly growing. If the world is growing and moving fast, and you’re not growing, you’re not going to be synced up. So you have to be changing in yourself as fast as your reality is changing, while staying humble.

Go figure.

Lewis Howes:                 I like this! I like this! So it’s not even saying, “Look what I’ve created.”

Rebekah Neumann:       Well, we haven’t created it, obviously. It’s been created through us.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah, you’re channelling it.

Rebekah Neumann:       We’re doing our part, but the members are creating this, and the students and families are creating WeGrow. There is a movement that goes way beyond us, of co-creators.

Lewis Howes:                 Why is WeWork co-working taking off more than every other co-working out there? What makes it unique and different?

Rebekah Neumann:       Well, the intention and energy that’s really fuelling it. I can’t speak to other co-working spaces, I’m sure there are great ones with great intentions as well, I would imagine.

But, like I said earlier, the seed and the DNA of this endeavour is so authentically rooted in sharing and togetherness that I feel people can feel that, because in my reality the truth always rises to the top, and human beings have a sense for truth, whether they now it or not.

So, I think they know that we’re authentically doing this to help the planet, and they want to be part of the solution, not the problem. We all have a choice to want to be part of the solution or the problem. You can’t be neutral, it doesn’t exist.  So that’s one thing.

And why else is it? Because, I think, the people involved are just awesome. I mean, my husband also just knows how to make things happen, like I was saying before.

Lewis Howes:                 Why, do you think, he knows how to manifest? Do you think it’s because he wasn’t able to learn with the certain school structure?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, the dyslexia served him tremendously.

Lewis Howes:                 I think a lot of dyslexic people manifest.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yes, they do. Because he had to figure out how to get people to help him from a very young age. He couldn’t even make it through, otherwise, and no one even knew he was dyslexic, because he was moving around so well.

Lewis Howes:                 That’s interesting, I’m sure I’d have great conversations with him, too. My other question was: What’s the vision? You’ve been doing this for seven, eight years now, and you just started WeGrow. It’s just the pilots and everything’s happening now.

But in seven, eight years, where do you see WeWork and WeGrow manifesting? How big is it? How impactful is it? How far is the reach?

Rebekah Neumann:       I mean, our vision and dream and goal, it would be around the entire planet, of course. That’s the intention. We want to create a whole ‘WeWorld’, where everybody is unified and happy and together. That’s the intention.

But we need the help of the whole world to make that happen. I keep saying, “We’re all on the same side. Either we’re going to figure this out together and help each other, and we’re going to all save the world, or the world won’t exist and we’re all be… You know what I’m saying? I feel like it’s kind of at a critical point right now, but we are all on the same side.

Lewis Howes:                 How many students do you want to have a part of WeGrow in the next seven, eight years?

Rebekah Neumann:       I don’t think, like I said, I don’t think in numbers. But, I mean, many, and we want to scale to students all around the world who have little to no money and, you know?

Lewis Howes:                 Wow. With every WeWork? Essentially, would you like a school to be attached to every WeWork?

Rebekah Neumann:       Every city, I would say, maybe, I’d have to think about it, that has a WeWork, potentially could have a WeGrow but, also if we create the online curriculum correctly, as well, then, hopefully, many other kids could also access it, that maybe don’t live near a physical location.

Lewis Howes:                 What’s a question that you wish people would ask you that they never ask?

Rebekah Neumann:       Oh, gosh! I don’t know! What do I wish people would ask me? What I like about them? Something about them, I guess!

Lewis Howes:                 Something not about you.

Rebekah Neumann:       Not about me, no.

Lewis Howes:                 Got it, got it, interesting. What’s the thing that you’re most proud of that most people don’t know?

Rebekah Neumann:       That’s interesting as well. I’m really flexible.

Lewis Howes:                 Emotionally? Spiritually? Physically?

Rebekah Neumann:       Physically. I mean, I’ve been a yogi and I haven’t had any meat since I was twelve.

Lewis Howes:                 Since twelve! Wow! That’s interesting.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, but I think being flexible and having a flexible spine, I’m sure you know this, as an athlete, but a yogi in India once told me, if your spine stays nimble, you won’t age. It’s all in the spine.

Lewis Howes:                 Is that why you look twenty-one?

Rebekah Neumann:       I don’t know if I look twenty-one, but I’m trying to work on my spine, yeah.

Lewis Howes:                 Flexible spine.

Rebekah Neumann:       I mean, that’s a random thing, I don’t know if it’s something I’m most proud of, but it’s a random thing.

Lewis Howes:                 So, most people don’t know, yeah, okay, sure.

Rebekah Neumann:       The not eating meat is a big one for me, as well. I have no judgements of people who eat meat, I understand why they eat meat, I get it. But I think for the environment and for health and for animals, eventually if we can move in the direction of not eating meat, that would be a good thing.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah. You know, I live in L.A. And so I spend a lot of time with vegan friends and go to a lot of vegan restaurants.

Rebekah Neumann:       Tasty, right?

Lewis Howes:                 It’s great, yeah! I love it. It’s something I battle with constantly, because I understand the principle, but it’s what I’ve been conditioned in my whole life or something, and it’s like, for someone who’s lifting and working out a lot, it’s just figuring out that process.

But I constantly am conscious of how I’m eating meat, and I try to go out with my vegan friends often, to spend time in vegan restaurants. It’s like, if I can do multiple meals in a row without meat, that’s what I try to focus on.

Rebekah Neumann:       That’s perfect! Reductionist.

Lewis Howes:                 Don’t judge me, though.

Rebekah Neumann:       I have no judgement. But there are a lot of really strong athletes that are plant based, right?

Lewis Howes:                 There are more and more, very much so. It’s happening in the MMA and football and basketball. There’s more and more plant-based athletes coming out that are super strong and super fast and it’s just changing the perception and changing the awareness around it and conditioning.

Rebekah Neumann:       There’s one easy way they do that, which is just, everyone can watch a film on how the meat’s actually getting to their…

Lewis Howes:                 I’ve seen it.

Rebekah Neumann:       I don’t know if you’ve seen Earthlings?

Lewis Howes:                 No. You know the movie that got me, actually, to really think differently? It wasn’t even a documentary, it was a movie Brad Pitt produced, I think, that was called Okja. Oh my gosh! I watched this movie and I was, like, it created such an emotional connection to animals, which I was just, like, can’t eat meat.

I wasn’t strong enough to not do it, but it was like, “Wow, it really hit me.” It wasn’t even really about the meat processing and the things like that, it was just, like…

Rebekah Neumann:       The animals, yeah.

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah, the heart of animals.

Rebekah Neumann:       But, also, when you eat something, you’re also absorbing the energy of that thing.

Lewis Howes:                 I know.

Rebekah Neumann:       So if the animal is sad, then you’re kind of taking in that. But anyway.

Lewis Howes:                 But isn’t the planet sad? And so eating plants and vegetables that is just sad soil, sad everything, it’s like all the food we eat is sad.

Rebekah Neumann:       Well that’s a big problem. We need to make the Earth happy again, so that we can have live produce that’s a really…

Lewis Howes:                 Sorry, I’m just trying to justify my position.

Rebekah Neumann:       No, no, that’s alright. Baby steps.

Lewis Howes:                 Exactly. This is a question I ask at the end, it’s called The Three Truths. I ask everyone this. Three truths. Now imagine, hypothetically, that you have lived as long as you want to live.

Rebekah Neumann:       That might be forever.

Lewis Howes:                 There you go. And imagine that, at some point your physical body has to go and it’s your last day. Let’s just imagine, hypothetically.

Rebekah Neumann:       I imagine that regularly.

Lewis Howes:                 Okay. You’ve accomplished and created and become and done and lived, everything you want to do. Your family is happy and they’ve lived the lives that they want. You’ve seen it all, you’ve created it all, the business or non-business, or structure, or non-structure, whatever it is, you’ve done it.

You’ve empowered the world. But, for whatever reason, everything you’ve said and shared and written, has got to come with you when you pass, and so no one has access to your materials any more, personally. Your audio or written words.

But you get to write down Three Truths that you get to leave behind, these three lessons, truths, ideals that you would share with the world. This is what they would have to be reminded of you, by your lessons.

What would you say are your three truths?

Rebekah Neumann:       Wow! I would say that the first is that only love is real. The second is that we are all one. And the third would be to treat people and animals and the planet the way they want to be treated.

Lewis Howes:                 Those are powerful. I like those. I like those a lot!

Rebekah Neumann:       Let’s do it!

Lewis Howes:                 What is something that we can support, as a community of listeners, right now, or people watching this, how can we support your mission, WeWork or WeGrow? What can we take action on?

Rebekah Neumann:       That’s a great question. I would say the best thing we could do is find ways, maybe in our local communities, or elsewhere, to help either or all of the above, between animals, kids and the environment. They’re all things that can’t help themselves, or protect themselves. It’s why I’m so passionate about those three subjects.

So, if you can help animals, or the environment, or children, that’s a huge win. And, yeah, basically that would be a good starting point.

Lewis Howes:                 Okay. Awesome. And if you’re an entrepreneur, you can check out WeWork.

Rebekah Neumann:       Totally!

Lewis Howes:                 You can check out wework.com and see if there’s a location near you and it’s got the zip code, you can just type it in and see.

Rebekah Neumann:       You can also just join as a WeMember and just plug into the global network of creators without actually being in a physical location.

Lewis Howes:                 Oh! What’s WeMember mean? What is that?

Rebekah Neumann:       It means that you’re a member in the community, without having to actually sit in one of the buildings.

Lewis Howes:                 Interesting. What does that give you, if you’re a WeMember?

Rebekah Neumann:       That gives you access to all the creators globally, that you can collaborate with.

Lewis Howes:                 So, is it an online portal or platform, or how does this work?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, it is, but I would need to get you on to tell you exactly where it’s going.

Lewis Howes:                 Okay, cool. So, just go to wework.com for information about WeWork, WeMembers, WeGrow, everything else. Do you guys do a lot of cool events and a speaker series.

Rebekah Neumann:       We do, yes, Summer Camp every year.

Lewis Howes:                 Summer camp, that’s cool!

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, it’s fun. We do do a lot of events and we’re going to be moving in a direction of all the events being really focused on consciousness. Getting high on consciousness, instead of anything else.

Lewis Howes:                 Something else, yeah. I’m glad to know that you’re behind this mission and one of the driving forces for the curriculum, the community, the creation behind everything the members are part of, because you’re attracting such unique individuals that stand for a higher way of being. Which I think is really cool.

So, I want to acknowledge you, Rebekah, for showing up as a present woman and mother to all of us. I really feel like you’re a mom to all the WeWork members, as well as your kids, the students at WeGrow.

And it’s really nice to know that someone with your level of integrity and truth and love is supporting all of us. So I really acknowledge you for the work you’ve done, your entire life, to be here right now, and guiding this mission. It’s really powerful. So, thank you.

Rebekah Neumann:       Thank you so much. I feel the same way about you. Thank you.

Lewis Howes:                 Thank you, I appreciate it. And my final question, or, first off, where can we connect with you personally? Is there a way to follow you on social media? Are you even on social media?

Rebekah Neumann:       Intentionally, not that much, but WeGrow is on Instagram. Just @wegrow. So that’s how I kind of communicate.

Lewis Howes:                 Okay, so follow @wegrow.

Rebekah Neumann:       And @wework as well. Just @weword, simple.

Lewis Howes:                 Okay, but you’re not personally on Instagram or Twitter or anything?

Rebekah Neumann:       I am, I’m @citizenofwe, but it’s private. I’m not really that cool, I only have 200 followers or something.

Lewis Howes:                 Gotcha. Citizen of We? Is that what it is?

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, but it’s not…

Lewis Howes:                 But no one can follow you anyway. You keep it private.

Rebekah Neumann:       It’s just, I’m not that good at that stuff, I don’t know. I also, if I have free time, want to be really present with my babies, versus diving into my phone.

Lewis Howes:                 You’ve got five kids, yeah. Five kids or four kids.

Rebekah Neumann:       Five.

Lewis Howes:                 Five kids, yeah. I mean, it’s like, you don’t have much extra free time.

Rebekah Neumann:       No free time, unless I schedule it.

Lewis Howes:                 No free time! Just schedule it. Instagram time.

Rebekah Neumann:       Yeah, like, in the block, “Free time. Recess.”

Lewis Howes:                 Yeah. Okay, so we’ll follow @wegrow, @wework, wework.com.

Rebekah Neumann:       Wegrow.com

Lewis Howes:                 Wegrow.com as well. We’ll be supporters and be following everything that you’re up to. My final question for you – or is there anything else you’d like to say before I ask the final question?

Rebekah Neumann:       Just that I think you’re awesome and I love to be with creators who are really doing it right.

Lewis Howes:                 Thank you. I appreciate that.

Rebekah Neumann:       So thank you so much and thank you for having me, this is my first podcast I’ve ever done.

Lewis Howes:                 I’m excited! I’m excited. My final question then is: What is your definition of greatness?

Rebekah Neumann:       My definition of greatness is being in a state of joy and happiness and fulfilment, manifesting your calling in the betterment of the world and others and, ultimately, it’s being able to spread that energy to a point where it hits a tipping point where the rest of the world would be existing in that same ‘we’ consciousness.

Lewis Howes:                 I love it! Rebekah, thank you so much for coming on.

Rebekah Neumann:       Thank you!

Lewis Howes:                 Appreciate you.

Rebekah Neumann:       Nice meeting you. Thanks.

Lewis Howes:                 There you have it, my friends, I love this interview, I enjoyed connecting with Rebekah, and hearing more about her story, her background, how she has been a part of this massive business, and how she is using all of her skills to now put it all into WeGrow, to support the growth of furthering education for kids and what she’s going to be doing for adults in the future is just blowing my mind.

I’m so excited about this! Make sure to check out wegrow.com, make sure to check out wework.com and see all the information that they have on everything there. It’s incredible what they’re doing and I really love their vision and mission.

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My friends, we are here on a mission to make an impact in the world. We’re here to improve our lives and to improve the lives of those that we care about around us, and to improve humanity. That’s what this is about.

John F Kennedy said, “Conformity is the jailer of freedom, and the enemy of growth.”

What are you doing to innovate in your life, to make sure that you don’t stay stagnant in your life. Don’t just stick to the norm. If it’s not working, innovate.

And Benjamin Franklin said, “Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success, have no meaning.”

Make meaning with your life today, and, as always, you know what time it is: It’s time to go out there and do something great.